“I was never really a fan. I never really got it. Most of my friends who loved it were, without question, smarter than I was. I couldn’t get it. It felt stilted.”
“I was asked if I was interested in producing a Star Trek movie. When I said yes – I had never thought of it – but what occurred to me was that there was a version of it that I could see getting interested in… Getting to do things that as a kid filmmaker cliché you want to do – spaceships and planets exploding.”
“The challenge of doing “Star Trek” — despite the fact that it existed before “Star Wars” — is that we are clearly in the shadow of what George Lucas has done.”
“That is something “Star Wars” did so well with its amazing creature design. The question is how do you subtly introduce the idea that there are different species here. And to also do it differently than the “Trek” TV shows, which basically had someone wearing a mask sitting in a chair in the background.”
-Actual JJ Abrams quotes on Star Trek
I remember going to Star Trek conventions when there was no TNG, DS9, VOY, etc. What you repeatedly heard in those days was how Star Trek was so much different than any other Science Fiction of its time because it always made serious attempts to say something important. It respected the intelligence of its audience enough to consistently confront them with thought-provoking parallels of important issues and events of the time. Gene Roddenberry tested every script with one basic question: What’s it about? Every script had to be about something - something larger than just people in space doing stuff and things. This is what made Star Trek special. Other science-fiction shows of the day were content to be simple adventure stories set in space with little substance or meaning - and those shows have been long forgotten while Star Trek continues to endure almost five decades later. This used to be a universal understanding about Star Trek and the test by which every new production was judged against. This is why I have been continually stunned at the popularity of NuTrek, since JJ Abrams has effectively eviscerated all of those wonderful characteristics from Star Trek.
Why is this so hard, for so many to understand. He isn’t making Star Trek, he is making Star Wars with the Trek name on it. There is nothing wrong with Star Wars either, but there was a reason they were two different things. Long live Prime Star Trek.
P.S. Star trek is obviously better, lol.
Reblogging myself for awesome commentary. <3
To those who don’t get the joke and/or who are commenting with other examples of ships and water… this is based on an actual Abrams quote in which he thinks to boldly go where no man has gone before means that you can put the Enterprise underwater because no one has done that and it’s in the spirit of Gene Roddenberry somehow. I’m not simply nitpicking the stupidity of throwing the Enterprise in the ocean (what a fitting metaphor), absurd as it is, but criticizing the fact that Jar Jar really has no idea what he’s talking about. And that’s my problem with him: he’s doing a franchise he knows NOTHING about and doesn’t even have the courtesy to try respecting it. And since spaceships in the water has been done in Trek before, guess what… that just further proves my point that Abrams doesn’t know anything.
Getting real tired of this “holier than thou” attitude from us older trek fans.
WHO THE FUCK CARES.
Stop ruining shit for everyone else with your fucking useless, pedantic, bullshit.
I’ve been a Trekker for 30 fucking years, and I am so tired of people shitting on the New Trek, just like you shitted on TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT.
It’s getting really old at this point.
Really fucking old.
I’m gonna start unfollowing people now because this is ridiculous.
Get over yourselves.
It’s not a holier than thou attitude, it’s making an observation and having a critical opinion about how Star Trek is currently being handled. You want to talk holier than thou, this “WHO THE FUCK CARES [IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE REBOOT]” and “your fucking useless, pedantic bullshit” attitude is exactly what I dealt with everywhere when the reboot was first released, because god forbid anyone have anything critical to say about a shallow movie with the Star Trek label slapped on it by someone who has proven in his own words time and time again that he just does not care about the franchise. So I’m not phased by it anymore. I got used to being bullied into not being allowed to voice my opinion on the matter. But recently, I’ve discovered that with news of the next installment, a lot of other Trek fans are also becoming annoyed at the development of so-called Star Trek. Just because you don’t care and because it’s really old doesn’t make mine or other people’s arguments less valid.
I like how every reboot defense dissolves into a matter of somehow being told you can’t like something. Nobody is ruining anything for you. Nobody said you have to agree. So not sorry that some of us feel that Star Trek is actually being ruined for us and want to voice that.
Cry some more. Please. If this were a simple matter of critically looking at it, I wouldn’t have a problem. But 9 times out of 10, y’all resort the kind of childish bullshit like that graphic up there. And then think the rest of us are fucking stupid for daring to like the New Trek.
Got issues with how Star Trek is being redone? Fine. I got some issues too. But you don’t see me shitting all over other fans because of it. So JJ isn’t a fan. Big fucking deal. So he’s changing Star Trek into something different that you feel isn’t “Star Trek” enough.
Let’s see, where have I heard these arguments before?
TOS fans talking about TNG.
TNG fans talking about DS9.
DS9 fans talking about VOY.
And VOY fans talking about ENT.
Your arguments aren’t even new. They are the same whiny, picky, elitist bullshit that has always gone on.
And btw, people like you are ruining it. You are turning fans off of Star Trek in it’s entirety because of your piss poor attitude.
And that’s not very Star Trek.
scifigamingmom, your replies are overly rude and uncalled for, and have significantly lowered the tone of this conversation. It seems like you have some past experience with what you deem as elitists within the Trek community. I suspect this has a lot more to do with your complete lack of tact and social grace than anything else - especially since Trekkies (especially the old guard) are known for being a mostly accepting group. You don’t even seem to be able to construct a valid response to what is actually being said, instead screaming “WHO THE FUCK CARES” and going on to create straw-man arguments by saying we are putting down NuTrek fans, putting down TNG, putting down DS9, putting down VOY, putting down ENT - none of which actually appears in this thread. Your posts convey a serious lack of prowess in both logic and effective use of language, not to mention basic respect for others. It’s really of little wonder why you throw around words like elitist and paint others with such broad strokes: I would wager that you do indeed regularly run into people who are quite dismissive of most everything you have to say - and very rightly so.